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    Why has Game of Thrones always done so badly with the acting Emmys?

    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. If it isn't, please move it to wherever the right place for it would be.

    Game of Thrones is one of the most popular shows on television. It has won three Emmys for Best Drama Series, been nominated for Best Drama Series 7 times, and is the most nominated Drama Series in the Emmys history. Despite that, Game of Thrones has consistently done terribly at being nominated for and winning acting Emmys. Peter Dinklage is the only member of the cast who has won an Emmy for his work on the show (which was most notable when Kit Harrington infamously lost to Ben Mendelsohn and when Lena Headey wasn't able to take advantage of a three-way split between the contenders from The Handmaid's Tale this year), and despite the show having a large ensemble cast, only 8 different actors from it have ever been nominated (which is only 1 more than This Is Us, 2 more than The Handmaid's Tale, 3 more than Westworld, and 3 more than The Crown, despite those shows all only being two seasons old). Plenty of respected actors, such as Sean Bean and Charles Dance, have done great work on the show and haven't been nominated at all. Why is that?

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    They probably think it's still a more of a technical/directorial achievement than an acting one.

    I mean Mad Men won 4 Drama Series, and Jon Hamm is its only acting win on its last season after 36 acting nominations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klariso View Post
    They probably think it's still a more of a technical/directorial achievement than an acting one.

    I mean Mad Men won 4 Drama Series, and Jon Hamm is its only acting win on its last season after 36 acting nominations.
    While that's true, despite the Emmys' reluctance to reward Mad Men in the acting categories, they still nominated 13 members of its cast for Emmys and gave it 36 acting nominations. Game of Thrones has only gotten 8 members of its cast nominated for Emmys and it has only gotten 22 acting nominations. It might be seen as a technical or directorial achievement, but it still should have been able to get more than 3 cast members nominated for its first 4 seasons and get more than 2 cast members nominated in the guest categories ever.

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    Game of thrones has done great!! I mean Mad Men and ER! So horrible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacourseauxetoiles View Post
    While that's true, despite the Emmys' reluctance to reward Mad Men in the acting categories, they still nominated 13 members of its cast for Emmys and gave it 36 acting nominations. Game of Thrones has only gotten 8 members of its cast nominated for Emmys and it has only gotten 22 acting nominations. It might be seen as a technical or directorial achievement, but it still should have been able to get more than 3 cast members nominated for its first 4 seasons and get more than 2 cast members nominated in the guest categories ever.
    That Pedro Pascal snub was awful.

    Could be worse. Newhart went 0 for 17 in acting. Law & Order only managed to get a Guest Actress win for Elaine Stritch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24Emmy View Post
    That Pedro Pascal snub was awful.

    Could be worse. Newhart went 0 for 17 in acting. Law & Order only managed to get a Guest Actress win for Elaine Stritch.
    It definitely could be worse, but neither of those shows were anywhere near as dominant as Game of Thrones has been and they were both usually fringe contenders. While I understand the reluctance of the Emmys to embrace it at the beginning when they had more resistance to genre shows (it wasn't even able to win Creative Arts Emmys consistently and it somehow didn't get nominated for Directing for Blackwater or The Rains of Castamere), it's odd for a series juggernaut to struggle to get guest acting nominations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacourseauxetoiles View Post
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. If it isn't, please move it to wherever the right place for it would be.

    Game of Thrones is one of the most popular shows on television. It has won three Emmys for Best Drama Series, been nominated for Best Drama Series 7 times, and is the most nominated Drama Series in the Emmys history. Despite that, Game of Thrones has consistently done terribly at being nominated for and winning acting Emmys. Peter Dinklage is the only member of the cast who has won an Emmy for his work on the show (which was most notable when Kit Harrington infamously lost to Ben Mendelsohn and when Lena Headey wasn't able to take advantage of a three-way split between the contenders from The Handmaid's Tale this year), and despite the show having a large ensemble cast, only 8 different actors from it have ever been nominated (which is only 1 more than This Is Us, 2 more than The Handmaid's Tale, 3 more than Westworld, and 3 more than The Crown, despite those shows all only being two seasons old). Plenty of respected actors, such as Sean Bean and Charles Dance, have done great work on the show and haven't been nominated at all. Why is that?
    Hmm.

    Let's look at the eight drama television series that have won the Emmy three or more times and compare the number of different actors who were nominated or won to determine if your contention that "Game of Thrones has consistently done terribly at being nominated for and winning acting Emmys."

    L.A. Law 17 actors recognized
    4 different actors won: Jimmy Smits, Richard Dysart, Larry Drake, Alfre Woodard;
    13 different actors nominated: Harry Hamlin, Susan Dey, Jill Eikenberry, Conchata Ferrell, John Glover, Diana Muldaur, Susan Ruttan, Michael Tucker, Michele Green, Amanda Plummer, Corbin Bernsen, Alan Rachins, Jeanne Cooper;

    The West Wing 16 actors recognized
    5 different actors won: Allison Janney, Alan Alda, John Spencer, Stockard Channing, Bradley Whitford,
    11 different actors nominated: Martin Sheen, Rob Lowe, Janel Moloney, Matthew Perry, Tim Matheson, Dulé Hill, Mary-Louise Parker, Mark Harmon, Richard Schiff, Ron Silver, Oliver Platt,

    Hill Street Blues 13 actors recognized
    6 different actors won: Daniel J. Travanti, Betty Thomas, Bruce Weitz, Afre Woodard, Michael Conrad, Barbara Babcock;
    7 different actors nominated: Barbara Bosson, Veronica Hamel, James Sikking, Joe Spano, Taurean Blacque, Charles Haid, Michael Warren;

    Playhouse 90 13 actors recognized
    2 different actors won: Polly Bergen, Jack Palance;
    11 different actors nominated: Lee J. Cobb, Robert Crawford Jr., Paul Muni, Rod Steiger, Piper Laurie, Geraldine Page, Mickey Rooney, Teresa Wright, Evelyn Rudie, Ed Wynn, Red Skelton;

    Mad Men 12 actors recognized
    1 different actors won: Jon Hamm;
    11 different actors nominated: Elizabeth Moss, Christina Hendricks, Robert Morse, John Slattery, Harry Hamlin, Linda Cardellini, Ben Feldman, Julia Ormond, Jared Harris, Randee Heller, Cara Buono;

    Game of Thrones 8 actors recognized
    1 actor win: Peter Dinklage;
    7 different actors nominated: Lena Headley, Nicholas Coster-Waldau, Diana Rigg, Kit Harrington, Emilia Clarke, Maisie Williams, Max Von Sydow;

    The Defenders 4 actors recognized
    2 different actors won: Jack Klugman, E. G. Marshall;
    2 different actors nominated: Don Gordon, Sylvia Sidney;

    Upstairs, Downstairs 4 actors recognized
    2 different actors won: Jean Marsh, Gordon Jackson;
    2 different actors nominated: Angela Baddeley, Jacqueline Tong;

    I wouldn't sat terrible in acting nominations. Maybe slightly less than average. Less successful in actual wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheAisle View Post
    Hmm.

    Let's look at the eight drama television series that have won the Emmy three or more times and compare the number of different actors who were nominated or won to determine if your contention that "Game of Thrones has consistently done terribly at being nominated for and winning acting Emmys."

    L.A. Law 17 actors recognized
    4 different actors won: Jimmy Smits, Richard Dysart, Larry Drake, Alfre Woodard;
    13 different actors nominated: Harry Hamlin, Susan Dey, Jill Eikenberry, Conchata Ferrell, John Glover, Diana Muldaur, Susan Ruttan, Michael Tucker, Michele Green, Amanda Plummer, Corbin Bernsen, Alan Rachins, Jeanne Cooper;

    The West Wing 16 actors recognized
    5 different actors won: Allison Janney, Alan Alda, John Spencer, Stockard Channing, Bradley Whitford,
    11 different actors nominated: Martin Sheen, Rob Lowe, Janel Moloney, Matthew Perry, Tim Matheson, Dulé Hill, Mary-Louise Parker, Mark Harmon, Richard Schiff, Ron Silver, Oliver Platt,

    Hill Street Blues 13 actors recognized
    6 different actors won: Daniel J. Travanti, Betty Thomas, Bruce Weitz, Afre Woodard, Michael Conrad, Barbara Babcock;
    7 different actors nominated: Barbara Bosson, Veronica Hamel, James Sikking, Joe Spano, Taurean Blacque, Charles Haid, Michael Warren;

    Playhouse 90 13 actors recognized
    2 different actors won: Polly Bergen, Jack Palance;
    11 different actors nominated: Lee J. Cobb, Robert Crawford Jr., Paul Muni, Rod Steiger, Piper Laurie, Geraldine Page, Mickey Rooney, Teresa Wright, Evelyn Rudie, Ed Wynn, Red Skelton;

    Mad Men 12 actors recognized
    1 different actors won: Jon Hamm;
    11 different actors nominated: Elizabeth Moss, Christina Hendricks, Robert Morse, John Slattery, Harry Hamlin, Linda Cardellini, Ben Feldman, Julia Ormond, Jared Harris, Randee Heller, Cara Buono;

    Game of Thrones 8 actors recognized
    1 actor win: Peter Dinklage;
    7 different actors nominated: Lena Headley, Nicholas Coster-Waldau, Diana Rigg, Kit Harrington, Emilia Clarke, Maisie Williams, Max Von Sydow;

    The Defenders 4 actors recognized
    2 different actors won: Jack Klugman, E. G. Marshall;
    2 different actors nominated: Don Gordon, Sylvia Sidney;

    Upstairs, Downstairs 4 actors recognized
    2 different actors won: Jean Marsh, Gordon Jackson;
    2 different actors nominated: Angela Baddeley, Jacqueline Tong;

    I wouldn't sat terrible in acting nominations. Maybe slightly less than average. Less successful in actual wins.
    Thanks for looking all that up! While Game of Thrones did do better than The Defenders and Upstairs Downstairs, The Defenders only had 4 seasons and Upstairs Downstairs only had 5. While some shows (like Playhouse 90) were able to overcome this, it's surprising to me that a 3-time winner that was liked enough by the Emmys to be nominated for 7 seasons still is only able to stand out in that lineup when compared to shows with significantly shorter runs.

    Also, Richard Schiff won for the first season of The West Wing. It is bizarre that most of the main supporting cast was able to win Emmys for that show but that Martin Sheen never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacourseauxetoiles View Post
    Thanks for looking all that up! While Game of Thrones did do better than The Defenders and Upstairs Downstairs, The Defenders only had 4 seasons and Upstairs Downstairs only had 5. While some shows (like Playhouse 90) were able to overcome this, it's surprising to me that a 3-time winner that was liked enough by the Emmys to be nominated for 7 seasons still is only able to stand out in that lineup when compared to shows with significantly shorter runs.

    Also, Richard Schiff won for the first season of The West Wing. It is bizarre that most of the main supporting cast was able to win Emmys for that show but that Martin Sheen never did.
    I think the genre of science fiction has more to do with Game of Thrones and its actors' Emmy performances. Actors, who vote for these honors, traditionally don't care for the artificiality of reacting to special effects that will be inserted on a later date. At the Oscars, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings each had successful series, but the actors who voted just nominated the old guy in each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheAisle View Post
    I think the genre of science fiction has more to do with Game of Thrones and its actors' Emmy performances. Actors, who vote for these honors, traditionally don't care for the artificiality of reacting to special effects that will be inserted on a later date. At the Oscars, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings each had successful series, but the actors who voted just nominated the old guy in each.
    That's fair I suppose, though I'd hope that's not the reason for the underperformance of Game of Thrones. It's not like Charles Dance or Sean Bean were reacting to many special effects.

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